tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9047080913606410024.post7446430557463715265..comments2023-08-25T03:21:18.533+08:00Comments on Silat Melayu The Blog: Senaman TuaMohd Nadzrin Wahabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01688305454146125158noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9047080913606410024.post-44456884759392832422007-12-26T00:04:00.000+08:002007-12-26T00:04:00.000+08:00mak aii...gone dizzi olredy..ngeh3 :Pmak aii...gone dizzi olredy..ngeh3 :Pdjambu puadovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03663717065091171593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9047080913606410024.post-32797914739621667202007-12-25T20:27:00.000+08:002007-12-25T20:27:00.000+08:00Ok..I get the picture.. :-)Ok..I get the picture.. :-)GLOBAL ABJAD BLOGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036053882317627682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9047080913606410024.post-43859956774118545122007-12-25T19:39:00.000+08:002007-12-25T19:39:00.000+08:00Salam hormat Poknik,The original name for Senaman ...Salam hormat Poknik,<BR/><BR/>The original name for Senaman Tua is Senaman dan Petua, but shortened to its current form, thus the name itself carries both meanings.<BR/><BR/>The word Petua is epistemologically proven to come from Fatwa (according to Kamus Dewan). Fatwa in Arabic means opinion, but the connotation in Melayu is the essence, conclusion or encapsulation of something.<BR/><BR/>A Fatwa is delivered by a learned Mufti who distills his knowledge into a useable package of knowledge for use by the community.<BR/><BR/>The community, although lacking in the advanced knowledge possessed by the Mufti, can apply the isued Fatwa just as effectively.<BR/><BR/>Thus, in Silat and Senaman Tua, the Petua refer to encapsulations of old knowledge into useable axioms or maxims that, when applied by a student, creates the same effect as if a master himself did it.<BR/><BR/>The higher form of Petua is the Perdu, while the useable form is the Perkakas.<BR/><BR/>This is going to be a long discussion on its own, and actually encroaches onto the definition of Silat articles I'm in the process of writing.<BR/><BR/>Ouch.<BR/><BR/>Salam persilatan,Mohd Nadzrin Wahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01688305454146125158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9047080913606410024.post-73686613923082905912007-12-25T16:50:00.000+08:002007-12-25T16:50:00.000+08:00Salam Brother NadzrinAs usual, you never fail to i...Salam Brother Nadzrin<BR/><BR/>As usual, you never fail to impress me and I'm impressed indeed with the dissertation on PETUA 'epistemology'.<BR/><BR/>Anyway I share the same view Guru Azlan Ghanie that 'Petua' is actually derived from 'Fatwa' while still wondering on the other 'school of thought' (may also be similar to yours) which goes something like this :<BR/><BR/>"Petua is PEdoman orang-orang TUA" (some say it's "PEtunjuk orang-orang TUA) - to mean as some sort of 'ancient guide'. <BR/><BR/>It's logic enough when Petua is a GUIDE and not GOSPEL but of course if this school of thought is correct, then GUIDE will always be the opposite of FATWA (GOSPEL)? <BR/><BR/>Rite?<BR/><BR/>Regards...<BR/><BR/>Pok NikGLOBAL ABJAD BLOGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036053882317627682noreply@blogger.com